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ShadowGangstaXXX

So who's a Sonic the Hedgehog fan?

Just curious as to who here actually cares about Sonic anymore, or if they even ever did. Oh, yeah, and we need some discussion going on in Games and Consoles. It's dying.
Roterblitz

I am, but my support has been wanning, the franchise really hasn't made anything great since Sonic Adventure 2.
ShadowGangstaXXX

Many of their portable Sonic games have been pretty enjoyable.

It's pretty widely agreed that Sonic Rush is an excellent game. You gonna disagree with that?
Roterblitz

ShadowGangstaXXX wrote:
It's pretty widely agreed that Sonic Rush is an excellent game. You gonna disagree with that?
Except that one. Otherwise the shows, comics, and games have not been great since SA2, few were even decent.
ShadowGangstaXXX

Otherwise the shows [and] comics . . . have not been great since SA2.
The shows and comics have never been great. You can't say that it's something that just suddenly went downhill after Sonic Adventure 2. They have always been terrible.

...few were even decent.
Sonic Rivals, Sonic Advance 1 through 3, and Sonic Battle were all portable Sonic games which were certainly decent. Sonic Riders, a console game, while arguably imperfect, was still a relatively good attempt at a game.
Roterblitz

Sonic Rivals, Sonic Advance 1 through 3, and Sonic Battle were all portable Sonic games which were certainly decent. Sonic Riders, a console game, while arguably imperfect, was still a relatively good attempt at a game.
I haven't played the GBA or PSP games, Sonic Riders was barely decent.
ShadowGangstaXXX

I haven't played the GBA or PSP games
Then go do it before you discount their merit.

Sonic Riders was barely decent
Barely, but it was. Thanks for agreeing.
cheese007

Nero Aznable wrote:
I am, but my support has been wanning, the franchise really hasn't made anything great since Sonic Adventure 2.

Outside of handhelds, anyways. Sonic06 pretty much killed the series for me. After playing that and Sonic Genesis on the GBA, I realized SEGA will never be able to fix Sonic and will just find new and horrible ways to rape my childhood.
Roterblitz

Captain Badass wrote:
Outside of handhelds, anyways. Sonic06 pretty much killed the series for me. After playing that and Sonic Genesis on the GBA, I realized SEGA will never be able to fix Sonic and will just find new and horrible ways to rape my childhood.
Sonic Heroes killed it for me, if anything SNG was one of the better games since.
ShadowGangstaXXX

Sonic Genesis on GBA was terrible, yes, and Sonic the Hedgehog was obviously horribly programmed. However, even after pumping out these instances of shit, they are coming out with Sonic Rush Adventure (actually made by them this time), which seems to be a good game. Sonic Rivals 2, while not being developed by Sonic Team, looks much better than the first, which people all agree was decent, at the least, and if this is any sign as to its potential quality, I'd say that's a pretty positive sign.

And, speaking of new and horrible ways to rape our childhoods.
cheese007

KILL IT WITH FIRE!
ShadowGangstaXXX

Sonic Heroes killed it for me, if anything SNG was one of the better games since.
Ohoho. Now, that's not something that you see everyday. I'd be very interested in hearing more about your views on this issue.
Roterblitz

Captain Badass wrote:
KILL IT WITH FIRE!
The morons at Leipzig rated that half-assed generic sports crossover as best Wii game, beating Super Mario Galaxy and Super Smash Bros Brawl, what is the world coming to?
ShadowGangstaXXX

I will not try to derail topics.
cheese007

Nero Aznable wrote:
Captain Badass wrote:
KILL IT WITH FIRE!
The morons at Leipzig rated that half-assed generic sports crossover as best Wii game, beating Super Mario Galaxy and Super Smash Bros Brawl, what is the world coming to?

Sarcasm?
ShadowGangstaXXX

No, that's not sarcasm.

And, am I the only one who completely hates the idea of Sonic and Mario being in the same game without the purpose being to beat the utter shit out of each other in the grudge match of the century? Of course, each character would be given their proper abilities, so Sonic would have his speed, homing attacks, and spin dashes, meaning that he'd be able to successfully reduce Mario to a pile of bleeding flesh. Mario could jump a lot, I guess.
cheese007

If Sonic isn't in Brawl and all we get is this shitty game, bad things will happen.
ShadowGangstaXXX

If Sonic's in Brawl and he sucks ass, then I'm going to personally cause some very bad things to happen.

If Sonic is ever in another game alongside any Nintendo character (Brawl notwithstanding), then I'm going to destroy something.
Roterblitz

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It was clearly rushed and incomplete, but they at least its flaws were unintentional, they couldn't have wanted long loading times or glitchy secondary character, as opposed to Sonic Heroes which was made according to plan with a really crappy plan.

Then explain why the debug team was fired before the games was even finished.
ShadowGangstaXXX

Who the fuck are you quoting? And I've heard about the debug team being fired, but is there any real source on that? People just sort of say it.
cheese007

I apparently edited BZ's long-ass rant on accident in attempt to respond to it.
ShadowGangstaXXX

Dunno what the fuck's going on here, but thanks for killing my topic.
cheese007

How did I kill it? If we go back on topic, we can save it.
The Freedom Fighter

Anyway, I'm still a Sonic fan. Always have been, always will be. Sonic is awesome, end of story. And anyone or any game that tells you otherwise can be disregarded.
Roterblitz

Ok, seeing as my post is now irrelevant, what were we talking about?

Leipzig and the Mario & Sonic Olympics, it looks really bad, and even if it isn't, it can't possibly be anywhere near the same league as Brawl or Mario Galaxy.
ShadowGangstaXXX

Anyone notice how Sonic is fucking slow?
Roterblitz

ShadowGangstaXXX wrote:
Anyone notice how Sonic is fucking slow?
Gameplay is more important than reputation, in Super Smash Bros, Mewtwo and Ganondorf can be defeated by Pichu and Princess Peach. It would be impossible to control him moving at Mach speed, in most of the recent games you barely control him going as slow as he already does.
ShadowGangstaXXX

You could control him at mach speeds if they didn't have such shitty turning and jumping mechanics. And it's the fucking waggle Olympics. All the control that you need is waving the remote around at mass speeds to make him run faster, and I'll be happy.

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