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ShadowGangstaXXX

More PS3 news that no one gives a fuck about!

But it makes for good discussion.

http://ps3.qj.net/MGS4-developer-...than-Dualshock-2/pg/49/aid/103392

http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/2...l-cechg01-the-el-cheapo-40gb-ps3/

As I'm fairly certain that none of you guys have a PlayStation 3, I thought that it'd be interesting to get your take on this.
Roterblitz

Sony lied, but why lie about something good?
ShadowGangstaXXX

Because if they say, "Yes, we will come out with a new model that's one hundred dollars cheaper!", then no one will buy the ones that are currently out in anticipation. It would be stupid of them to admit to a price drop such as that. You have to think of it from a business perspective.
Roterblitz

ShadowGangstaXXX wrote:
It would be stupid of them to admit to a price drop such as that.
That was obvious, I mean why did they lie about the controller?
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/09/24
cheese007

Because they think we're stupid, and they needed an excuse to cover up the lawsuit.
ShadowGangstaXXX

I don't think that they really expected that to cover anything up. And regarding Penny Arcade's extremely insightful and creative comic, Sony has addressed the "impossible to put both in the controller" issue by stating that they were having difficulties at first, and only recently got it to work right. They didn't completely avoid that, regardless of how bullshit of an excuse it may or may not be. And it's not as if the motion control gimmick wasn't just something to cover their asses, either. They've been thinking about that for a while, as is apparent from the other motion controller stuff they've been messing with and its presence in a controller prototype that the Lair devs were talking about. It is possible that they were genuinely having trouble, but it's unlikely. If they were, then it probably involved trying to think of a way to get around the lawsuit and failing hard at it. And, seeing as how the DualShock 3 isn't going to be released in the US until spring of next year, it's a bit retarded to expect them to start bundling it with the PlayStation 3 this early on. I'm sure that they'll either phase out the SIXAXIS or make it optional when the time comes. Personally, I'd rather that they keep the SIXAXIS as the default controller because I've never given a fuck about rumble, I like light controllers, and the extended battery life is nice.

Also, the comic's artist got the colors wrong on the PlayStation controller's face buttons. =P
Roterblitz

Penny Arcade was focusing more on their bullshit excuses than the issue itself, and they did use the correct colors.
ShadowGangstaXXX

I'm holding a SIXAXIS in my hands right now. I ought to know. They made the square yellow.
WoogyCakes

well in some ways it may have been "impossible" at the time they said that. What probably made it impossible were legal reasons.


I got a PS3....

and my Square's are still pink.
ShadowGangstaXXX

What games have you got for PlayStation 3?
WoogyCakes

Virtua Fighter 5 and Ridge Racer 7
cheese007

[obligatory]IT'S RIDGE RACER! RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDGE RACER![/obligatory]
ShadowGangstaXXX

WoogyCakes

um..yeah ok.
ShadowGangstaXXX

An update on previous cheap-ass PS3 rumor.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/0...ys-399-ps3-confirmed-by-best-buy/
cheese007

It gets more and more tempting every day. Kinda sad when you think about it, considering that it hasn't even been a year since launch.
ShadowGangstaXXX

Well, it was kind of a given that they'd have to do something about the brutal price tag before Christmas this year if they wanted to sell any units.
ShadowGangstaXXX

It's official.

http://www.scee.presscentre.com/C...p?ReleaseID=4434&NewsAreaID=2
cheese007

I wonder if anyone will buy it.
ShadowGangstaXXX

Of course someone is going to buy it.
cheese007

Good point.
ShadowGangstaXXX


Come November 2nd, people in the US will be getting the $399 PlayStation 3, and, starting immediately, the price of the 80GB model has dropped to $499. The 40GB model will come bundled with Spider-Man 3, as expected.

As an added note, Sony has noticed that the US dollar is now on par with the Canadian dollar, and has stopped overcharging Canadians. In effect as of now, a PlayStation 3 from either country will cost the same.
cheese007

I've lost track of all the new SKU/SKU discontinues and price drops that have been going on.
ShadowGangstaXXX

Basically, here's what happened:

PlayStation 3 launches in North America and Japan, SKUs are as follows:
-60GB SKU released (has everything)
-20GB SKU released (lacks card readers and Wi-Fi)
PlayStation 3 launches in Europe and the rest of the world:
-60GB SKU released (lacks emotion engine)
Sony pull crazy shit out of their asses:
-80GB SKU released (lacks emotion engine, but is bundled with MotorStorm)
-60GB SKU gets price drop
-20GB SKU discontinued
Sony pulls even more crazy shit out of their asses:
-80GB SKU gets price drop
-60GB SKU discontinued
-40GB SKU released (lacks PlayStation 2 backwards compatibility, bundled with Spider-Man 3. Japanese units are available in white.)

So, in the end, we've got an 80GB model and a 40GB model.
cheese007

I see now. I wonder how many more they'll release just to confuse the fuck out of us?
ShadowGangstaXXX

Well, they're going to start bundling them with the DualShock 3 rather than the SIXAXIS once production gets ramped up, so I predict that they'll do something interesting involving that.

I doubt that we'll be seeing another price drop for a good while, though.
cheese007

I can see one at Christmas time, but not any earlier.
ShadowGangstaXXX

Christmas of this year? What they just did was this Holiday's price drop, as far as I can tell. I'm no analyst, but they need to make some profit. Perhaps they'll have a bundle with, say, Ratchet & Clank Future or Uncharted at the regular price for a while, but I don't see a straight drop.
cheese007

Yes, this year. It's HIGHLY unlikely, but plausible.
ShadowGangstaXXX

What do you propose? Certainly nothing in the $100 range. That would kill them.
cheese007

$50 max.
ShadowGangstaXXX

Well, if it's around that price, I can see a $349 40GB model. Either that, or delicious bundles.

And, actually, thinking about it, perhaps the 40GB model will keep its price, and the 80GB will drop to $549. That would make more sense.
cheese007

I wonder what SONY was smoking when they decided to remove bc for the low end model. I also wonder if this will eventually apply to the high end one.
ShadowGangstaXXX

It saves costs, and it helps to promote the purchase of PlayStation 3 software. It is possible to get software emulation in the future. And as for what they were smoking, it seems likely to have been opium.

And, no, I doubt that they'll be nerfing the high-end model much. It's the Goddamn high-end model.
cheese007

But it would further encourage PS3 software, which is desperately needed.
ShadowGangstaXXX

Encourage sales, or development? We're getting plenty of PlayStation 3 titles throughout the upcoming months.
cheese007

Both.
ShadowGangstaXXX

Also,
http://blogs.pcworld.com/gameon/archives/005721.html

Specifically the chart. Oh, and removing BC would hardly encourage development of PlayStation 3 software. Think of the costs involved.
cheese007

No one devs for dead systems.
ShadowGangstaXXX

Am I missing something here?
cheese007

Word censors. I haven't a clue WHY dead is censored to alive, but ok.
ShadowGangstaXXX

Well, Sony doesn't want to kill the PlayStation 2 yet, because, in case you hadn't noticed, it still makes a shitload of money.
cheese007

Not yet, but they definently are shifting focus.
ShadowGangstaXXX

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/828/828443p1.html
Quote:
IGN: Okay, but right now -- for the record -- from now on looking forward for Sony, it's going to be the 40 and the 80? That's the future for the PS3?

Peter: That's correct.

So, they claim that they're not going to be introducing any more SKUs. And, yes, their focus is shifting, but they've got that whole "ten year commitment" thing going on.
ShadowGangstaXXX

The sales for the 80GB PlayStation 3 on Amazon have gone up by over 900% over the past 24 hours, doubtlessly in response to this price drop.

http://n4g.com/gaming/News-75734.aspx
http://www.amazon.com/gp/movers-and-shakers/videogames/
cheese007

They'll go down pretty quickly, as with any price drop.
ShadowGangstaXXX

THE THOUGHT NEVER OCCURRED TO ME.
cheese007

Some people here don't realize that.
ShadowGangstaXXX

They all left, remember?
cheese007

They probably lurk here still.
ShadowGangstaXXX

Nope.
cheese007

Yep.
WoogyCakes

fo sho
ShadowGangstaXXX

Boom, motherfucker.
cheese007

Wii is still beating it.
ShadowGangstaXXX

Wii isn't even direct competition. Nothing the other consoles can do will affect it... Entirely different target users, etc.
cheese007

You know what you just said is bullshit.
WoogyCakes

Just like DS and PSP aren't competing with each other right!?
ShadowGangstaXXX

Fuck you again. There's a damn difference.
WoogyCakes

There really isn't. They're all game consoles. theres the price difference but its only a couple hundred. (and soon $150) Not enough to really say they aren't. It's not like comparing a $30,000 sports car to a $300,000 Ferrari.

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